I AM - David Long

Artist/Musicain/Philosopher/rEvoutionary

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Index:

Intro:
Intention
What it is and what it's not
Fundamental Assumptions / Foundational Understandings
Why Integral?
Lessons of Development
The need for non violent developmental "rEvolution"


1. Core of Leaders/ Core WE:
Herding cats and Integral Jesus
Top Down no matter what
Key agreements
Dangers

Method: Find like minded people and start a tight core


2. Find/Unite Local Tribe:
Filling out the lower group quadrants and making room for upper quadrant expressions within those LR and LL groups.
integration and initiation
Co-creating an Integral/rEvolutionary Lifestyle
Integral Hub - Connect We Spaces, Host open Integral discourse, Connect people, products, companies, and courses. - Liberate and unite the Integral community - transcend and include Integral the brand.


3. Community Centers:
Support and integration systems
Expand Business / Build Local Alliances
Create a venue to host/grow Integral culture
Open events and Integration system
4 Quadrants Expressed
Levels of integration
Circles of deeper involvement
building from the inside out, integrating from the outside in.

Translation and Transformation:
"Integral" the brand vs the integral stage – Different meanings of Integral
The brand is usually working on translation
This plan is rooted in transformation and holds translation as a short term means to the transformative end

method: small communities sharing business and living spaces (maybe have "integral Apartment complexes" microcosmic versions of the next stage of the unfolding plan) trying to be as self reliant as possible.

4. Commune
The birth of a new world.
No Escape / just a stage
Collective Individualism
Co-op the human family business
The human conversation and natural growth hierarchy online and organized like never before
New Governance system, Roles, rules, traditions etc.
Marketing, integration, and distribution of resources

Method: Create a New culture as a larger CORE for the massive integration to come - Reinterpret and upgrade all systems from educational to spiritual to economic across the board.

Integral synthesis Collective Individualism:
Natural Growth Hierarchy and Education
Rationality, logic, and science applied to Governance/resource management
Motivation to work/Need for workers
Social and Economic Spheres
Trans-rational Religion:
All human traditions online

5. Competition
Get back into the market place, compete, and win based on values and quality.
Buying up businesses and assimilating businesses into our WE.
Declaration of Interdependence/ Inviting others to take up these standards/ Unite unaffiliated people/groups with shared values under over arching agreements/ quadratic product grading/ app

Conscious Capitalism?
Problems with Integral Translation
When Translation fights Transformation
It's Time for ACTION and Transformation

Method: Get our name out and compete in the market place - Start integrating more people
Get ready to be swamped and overwhelmed/ You just brought real supply to a HUGE demand.
You Better have a tight core and a working system - this is why we can't grow too fast. - This is the real test.


6. Integral City
It's at this point that I feel compelled to say that we are well beyond the point that our realistic expectations can really claim to fully understand, and there is a lot of theoretical speculation and high hopes at this point and further. It could go so many ways. We can talk about the possible ways it can go. Hopefully the practice that gets us to that point helps us to be better prepared for the problems at those levels and higher.

The End of the Old, Can the antiquated system transform from within, or will it fall? How bad will it be?


7. Integral Country/World
The final Goal from our perspective
Resource Based Economy - Human Conversation Online
One Human Species, New Cultures
All new problems that we cannot yet see but at least those people will be prepared with better tools to deal with it.

This is just our part in Evolution, Lets take it up with passion and care.

Intro:

Revolution doesn’t have to do with smashing something; it has to do with bringing something forth. If you spend all your time thinking about that which you are attacking, then you are negatively bound to it. You have to find the zeal in yourself and bring that out.
— Joseph Campbell (Pathways to Bliss)

Right now so many people are talking about problems with our current political, economic, and social value systems, and there is so much vague talk about what the world of the future might look like if we where going to fix many of our problems.

For example: you might hear people talking about Conscious Capitalism, Collective Individualism, Integral (third way) Political Parties, Market Place Revolution, Resource Based Economy etc. but I am going to try and talk about these things in a larger unfolding context.

I don't think any of these things alone are THE answer. I think to really understand any of these things or to apply them skillfully you have to understand them in an unfolding evolutionary context.

I am hoping that next time you hear someone mention any of these ideas that you will encourage them to consider “The Longview".

I want to get past the vague talk and get into an actual plan and explanation of how we might make the transition into a new world together.

Maybe you will disagree with aspects of what I am saying, or you think there is a more skillful way to do X at stage 3 in the unfolding, or you think there are potential problems I don't account for at stage 5. - Whatever it is. That is great. I am not claiming to have all the answers. This is just what I think it looks like and why. I invite critical analysis and refinement. That is why I am submitting this plan to the community to hopefully expand the argument, create more nuance, and hopefully get 1 step closer to working towards these high goals together with shared values, methods, and plans. I submit this not as a final word but as a first draft if you will. Lets challenge it, evolve it, and realize it together.

In lots of these conversations about how to effect change I hear people criticizing other peoples ideas and not really bringing ideas of their own about how to solve the problems to the table. They might say "i have my ideas about how to fix things" but they don't share, they just talk negatively about other peoples ideas.

My intention is to talk about "how" these ideas might work and how they might not as well as sharing ideas that I have about projects that need to be done at these levels. It might not be done by me or in my way but I hope it inspires debate as well as action. Right now I think this type of conversation is important so we can refine our ideas together. I think it's already happening in private among many people, but I think we need to make it more public so we can better evolve and refine our ideas.

I admit that in the past I have also been selfish with my ideas, keeping my cards close to the chest, and hoping that it would be me personally that would be working to effect this change, bring these ideas, products, and services, but I am starting to see now that this movement is so much bigger and stronger then me and that the time for sharing and collaboration is upon us.

I think my motivations where:
Wanting badly to be deeply involved,
Not wanting other people to do a bad job with important things. - If you want something done right do it your self.

Now I realize that putting these ideas out IS getting deeply involved, and that if WE can stay open to peer review then WE can also hold each other accountable for OUR movement and hopefully that will result in us doing a good job.

Even if someone does a crappy job at first it might evolve into something better or inspire others to make something better.

WE are in this together. WE need to stop thinking like individuals who want monetary compensation for the way the zeitgeist moves through us. These ideas are not ours as individuals but an expression of an evolving planetary conscious awareness. These are "ideas that's time has come "and they WILL get expressed. If not by me then by someone else who was probably inspired by the same people that I was inspired by.

The other exciting part about this conversation that we are having is that if you contribute something of substance, then you gain respect in the community. So we get involved by jumping in with both feet.

With that intention I bring my offering to the table:

I intend to explain what an unfolding integral revolution might look like by trying to explain it in very integral language, projecting into the 4 Quadrants and different lines through the stages of unfolding, and talking about how these stages apply to both the movement as a whole as well as local emerging groups.

What it’s not:

I am not going to talk too much about the problems with our current system. There is plenty of talk about that out there all ready and I am going to assume that we are already at least on the same page and you understand that "things need to change radically". If you want to learn more about why and get a better introduction to some of these ideas I can highly recommend video's by Troy Wiley, and Peter Joseph. I agree with most of what they have to say especially in terms of the problems with our current system, and what kind of a system we need to transition into.

So this is not a video/book about "why" (why things are wrong bad) or even "what" (what we need to do) but the "How". I am assuming that you are already somewhat on the same page that things need to change and we need a more sustainable/healthy system. If not, go watch "Zeitgeist Addendum" by Peter Joseph or his new series "culture in decline", or for a more integral perspective check out "NeoTribal Zeitgeist" and "Integral Zeitgeist" by Troy Wiley. These are great videos that will give you the "what" and the "why". Then, if you agree with that, come back to this video/book and we can talk more about the "how".

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” - Buckminster Fuller

I am not an advocate for violent revolution. In the past when violent revolutions have happened often lots of people die in the wake not from violence, but from a lack of organization and practice. When dramatic change happens swiftly systems are not yet in place to deal with it, and that is more of a break down then a break through. - Our work is long slow incremental practice and refinement. The rEvolution is a cognitive, spiritual, cultural, theoretical, technical revolution that will have to prove its self to people practically, and work in the real world. (This is why the R in rEvolutionary is lower case and the upper case emphasis is on the E to imply that this is a developmental evolution of culture consciously deciding to grow up as the reason for change, as opposed to some fringe violent radical political group trying to take over.)

Why Integral?:

Integral Theory lends its self really well to the necessary global rEvolutionary movement as an intellectual/theoretical framework and value system. Its a good set of core understandings and values that we can start from in terms of coming together under a banner with understandings as well as giving us tools and insights into how growth and development happens in both individuals and societies.

It also has a pretty good community WE space already established and expanding. So Integral has already evolved into stage 2 and in some places stage 3 of this unfolding. That is saving us a lot of time. This way we can work with a system that is already growing in that direction instead of spending 30 years reinventing the wheel to get to where “Integral” is already at.

Many integralists are not just thinking about how to better themselves as individuals, but how we can live together in a more conscious and sustainable way. So I think the project of a global rEvolutionary movement is a natural outgrowth of integral thinking.

You might be interested in global rEvolutionary movements and not be that aware of Integral philosophy and that is fine, but I think if you are thinking in that way you are probably intuiting a lot of "integral ideas" already because "integral" is not a brand, but an emerging set of insights and ways of thinking at higher stages of cognitive development. It’s about integrating diversity with discernment and finding a simplicity on the other side of complexity. You might be “Integral' and just don't know it yet, and having these distinctions is actually helpful to dig deeper in understanding and application.

“You know, you don't see with your eyes, you see with your brain, and the more words your brain has, the more things you can see”  - KRS-ONE

Also semantics are important because we need to come together under common banners that represent what we are really about, but it's really the underlying agreements that matter most. So call it what you will: Integral, evolutionary, unity conscious, worldcentric, etc. etc.

But it is important to point out that the global shift we need requires integral distinctions like "natural growth hierarchies", and "quadrants". So if you don't know about integral philosophy and you care about global evolution you should learn integral theory. Likewise if you understand Integral theory you should want to get deeply involved in an integral global/local rEvolutionary movement.

rEvolution with no Integral is probably bound to fail. All action - not enough wisdom, and Integral that is not revolutionary is not really integral. - It's all interior talk with no exterior walk. - They need each other. - Understanding and Control, Knowledge and Movement, Hip and Hop.

Ken Wilber and his work/project:

 

Lessons of Developmental Unfolding:

When we are considering the unfolding of our plan I should be clear that the colors are not correlates to SD (Spiral Dynamics - a developmental theory by Claire Graves), I am just using these colors as a way to help resonate with what you already understand about human development and apply that to the growth and development of integral worldspace. - if you see correlation's that is awesome. I do too, but I don't think it is as scientific as it is poetic. - But maybe that is a topic that will unfold in further discussion on these themes later. The following are some of the lessons from human development that apply to the unfolding of this plan:

Can't Skip Stages:

We can only become what is next for us to become and growth takes time. This is good because if we grow to fast we won't be prepared for the challenges to come. We need to grow slow and strong. If you try and force growth you will just make it take even longer. If we try and get ahead of our selves we will just fail and learn the hard way by turning people off and that is no way to build a community.


Transcend and Include:

As we grow and develop new potentials and opportunities we also have new struggles as well as still having to attend to previous stages and as we develop the stages of the unfolding can be expressed differently and we have to adapt top down and bottom up in a skillful and dynamic way to have a healthy expression through growth. Example: leaderships expression changes at every stage as circumstances change and its called for. It starts top down at stage 1 like "X is our goal/project, Y is our method, Z are our values. Take it or leave it. Get on board or get out of the way. Then at stage 2, tribal WE, people are initiated into that system through agreement to those top down terms and within that they can participate. At stage 5 the system needs to be so developed that it doesn't require anyone to lead top down but it just becomes a human peer reviewed process, engaging the human conversation in a more scientific way to the end of worldcentric systemic optimization.- That is the top down decision we are making from day one.


Keep Growing:

There is always more work to be done, shadow work, which can make you more compassionate, give you an idea as to how you can get involved more now to evolve yourself and your culture everyday in everything you do and don't do, realistic hope for the future, inspiration to get involved, and the understanding that the work is never done. Both of those things together help us to relax into and enjoy this great work as a practice in refinement of our selves and the culture. - All Life can be a spiritual practice from this post-formal trans-personal perspective.


Lines Growing Through Stages:

Much like regular development some lines can run a little higher or lower in different places and that has a huge effect on growth so we have to be aware of our stage of development, our lines, the types we can hold and the Tetra-Arising of the Quadrants. Understanding your lines that are strong and week is crucial to conscious growth.

 

Applies at multiple levels:

When we look at the Integral Movement we can see that the movement as a whole is only at a certain level of development, and that it might be at a higher level in Boulder where they have "The Integral Center" (which is not to say that they are including all the 4 factors of a healthy movement or that they are working on the projects I am outlining at stage 3 all mentioned below) then they are in Dallas (where they have basically a stage 2 Integral book club called "Dallas Integral" ) or in Burlington VT, where we tried to get this going at stage 1 for over a year. - Not only does this allow us to make more nuanced distinctions it lets us understand just how healthy or "integral" these so called Integral groups are. Which is not an insult. Knowing your strengths and weakness helps you to improve, and understanding the values and goals of your project/group, and making it clear to others is important.

 

Agentic and Communal Themes:

The warm and cool colors resonating with the communal/warm and individualistic/cool themes even works on this graph in a very similar way to Spiral Dynamics. From the cold, hard and fast, in or out, top down approach at the fundamental core, to the tribal WE, to the birth of an established voice in the community at red, to the birth of a society at blue,  to the competition and desire to compete and win at orange, the unity of a sustainable city, to the trouble with global politics and local systems management at yellow to a complete integration of all perspectives at teal - This map resonates so well with the Spiral Dynamics Map we should probably talk about numbers instead of colors when we are talking about rEvolutionary LongView stages so we don't confuse the 2. - I think the correlation's are helpful conceptually, but from here on out I will speak about the stages by number and not by color. If I am referencing a color I will probably be talking about Spiral Dynamics and not the LongView. - Just to be clear I will also put an (SD) next to any color I mention.


Translation and Transformation (Skillful Means):

Working with people and systems right where they are within the context of our own unfolding prioritization to the end of the greatest depth for the greatest span - utilitarian approach. it's practical to the end of what works. That is what it means to be an integrally informed systems theorist, social revolutionary, and spiritual practitioner. That's the Dharma/Struggle, that is our ART.

As a further example I am going to share a (slightly edited) relevant article I wrote that was released on “Beams and Struts” called “Eight Perspectives On Integral Trans-Partisan Politics” written with 7 other Integralists. This is my part:

A Truly Integral Political Theory: Transcending and Including Both Translation and Transformation:

As integralists we need to understand the unfolding of development so that we can work with ideas, systems, and people right where they are. This recognition leads to two different approaches: translation and transformation. Which approach we use is dependent upon where a person or system is in its current unfolding.

For example, some people are new to a stage of development and still have much to learn in that stage while others are well established in a stage and are not going to change their general worldview anytime soon. This is where we use skillful means to try and work with the interpretation of ideas to create a more healthy translation. (Example: getting Christians to care about the environment by referencing the scriptures and getting them to see them selves as “good stewards of the earth”) This often means embracing a quadrant that might be rejected or given less influence. (Like getting the Christian to care about the LR environmental systems). It also might mean doing a better job of encouraging the growth of the previous stage, or more fully taking up the role of the current stage of evolution being occupied. (Example: Red(SD) is impulsive/egoic. "I want it now" and Blue(SD) is a conformist stage where we "sacrifice now, for something better later." This is often a magic/mythic translation but it doesn't have to be. The main thing that makes a stage healthy is that it keeps the lower stage in check and/or helps it to evolve.)

On the other hand, there is a point in evolution called “the dark night” where the ideas in a stage have reached their natural culmination and new problems emerge that can’t be solved by the old ways of thinking and something new is required. This is where transformation into the new stage is necessary, and old antiquated ideas that inhibit development must be dealt with. This is often a painful process, but it can also lead to a beautiful rebirth into new previously undeveloped potentials and a more positive harmonious way of being.

I find that when I speak to integralists about politics there is a bit of a split.

Many integralists focus on a more short-term approach. There is real excitement in the integral community about more healthy translations that are slowly unfolding. Many integralists want to get more involved and work with our political system where it is to create better lives for the people now. This includes great things like equal rights for different genders, classes, and races; The end of prohibition, and the drug war, etc.

Many other integralists will argue that while these things are positive advances, it’s ultimately just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic; fixing only the symptoms in a system that is destined to go down if the real problems are not addressed. They are seeing that we are stuck in a dark night and find that our current political discussions are not dealing with the real underlying problems that have manifested as a natural result of our current system’s philosophical foundations.

Here are some of the main problems not being addressed:

1. Unsustainability - in terms of our use and waste of limited resources in the environment as a natural outgrowth of materialism, gluttony, consumerism, and planned obsolescence resulting in environmental degradation and systems collapse.

2. “Haves” and “Have Nots” – scarce resources ultimately lead to a huge gap between rich and poor that is ever-widening. More and more people are finding that the “American Dream” is an unhealthy nightmare that we must wake up from and that these freedoms that we take for granted are claimed at the expense of the systems that support us. (There is an unhealthy balance between positive and negatives liberties i.e., “freedom from” and “freedom to” with a narcissistic, individualistic, “hands off my stuff”, and “I’ll do what I like” type of underlying attitude that has to change.)

3. “Us and Them” Thinking – in a world where all of our systems are becoming ever more connected, ideas like borders and political party lines cease to make any sense. It becomes more obvious all the time that humans share this planet with each other (transcending our ideas of local culture into a historic perspective of unfolding human culture) and with other species. We are now seeing that we are a part of the ecosystem, and that it was not put here for us to exploit like a cancerous virus. We are outgrowing the Blue(SD)/traditional/ethnocentric and Orange(SD)/materialistic/nationalistic ways of thinking into a more worldcentric understanding and expansion of care. (This is also a natural outgrowth of a scientific cosmology, and that should be appreciated.)

4. Limited Education and Health Care systems – unsustainability is also evident in human society because there is a limited focus on development. Often what should be seen as “investments in our collective human future” are seen as “handouts to the irresponsible.” To see people as just what they are now and not as what they could be or bring to the table is a flat and static view with a very limited understanding of human development, and results in a limited investment in a natural growth hierarchy. Our current systems are run like a factory and people are treated as cogs in the machine, beasts of burden, wage slaves, means to a mechanistic short term monetary end only reaped by the corporate elites. - This is a HUGE waste of human potential! So many unique perspectives have no opportunity to bring their value to the table, and so we ALL miss out.

5. Biased Problem Solving Methods – all of these problems are a result of legislating taste (top down) vs. taking a vote (mob rule). Everything from corporate corruption in politics (corporations as people and money as speech) to the idea that what is true or good is equivalent with what is popular amongst a people who are not even educated enough to make decisions in their own best interest. (This is the real source of the paralysis in our systems. We need a more unified scientific “peer review process” type of system that factors in natural growth hierarchies, takes good ideas from everywhere based on their merit, tests these ideas, and is open to refinement over time.)

In the face of all these problems, many integralists have stopped participating in our current systems; but, also see limited to no solutions coming from the Green(SD)/postmodernist/deconstructionist uprising (e.g., The Occupy Wall Street Movement). While it is a positive sign of growth and shows a deep desire for something better, it is also seen as more:

1) “Us and Them” thinking (we are the 99% - not we are the 100%) - Don’t hate the player, hate the game!

2) A lack of understanding of development (blaming the 1%, expecting them to be better and/or fix things instead of fixing them and making things better themselves, as well as not appreciating the advancements brought by this way of thinking in an unfolding context),

3) A flatland lack of distinction even within it’s own participants and their motives, as well as a rejection of the natural growth hierarchies that could ultimately hold the solution.

So while many integralists are working on short-term healthy translation, conscious capitalism, trans-partisan third-way integral politics, and expressing these ideas in a way that can be heard and appreciated in our current culture (building from the bottom up), many other integralists are focusing on building new integral governance, education, and resource management systems from the top down. (Such as new ideas about “Collective Individualism” and what that might look like in theory and practice.)

Currently we are not just dealing with a single idea, person, or system, but a dynamic spectrum, and so It is my opinion that BOTH of these approaches are important and that for either of them to be truly effective they must inform each other and work together in an unfolding way. This is the importance of integrating the long-term and short-term approaches of integral translation and transformation.

To focus only on the short term is to take action that is not informed by the big picture. To ignore the short term can be seen as a form of integral inaction and paralysis, building castles in the sky in a world that needs us NOW.

I would like to think that as integralists we could see the importance of both approaches and find some way of establishing a means of working on them both together, refining them over time, and unifying them into a REAL integral understanding of “Integral political theory and practice” in an unfolding context.

Each of us may have our own ideas and want to focus on particular areas based on our personal passions and interests; but we must be open to, and have great respect for, anyone who is truly working towards healthy integral translation and transformation. Lets come together with a method and take it further.

The Goal in our project is to make a means for Human Developmental Maturity to express its self - To demonstrate the way and invite the world to evolve. To educate and empower Individuals to bring their unique creative expression in service of the whole. - Give humans the option to decide to grow up and do better. - In our current system people don't even have the option. - We intend to start a non violent Market Place rEvolution - OUR business. The One Human Family Co-Op. - Because that is how you win in the current game of Capitalism. And We will WIN. Let the market decide says the republican. Decide it will as soon as we give it a better choice. - We will also create a better game where we can all thrive instead of competing over limited resources in a way where some people have more then they can use in several life times and some people starve to death as children. We can live in a way that manages the resources in a sustainable way where we can all thrive. - Seeing the potential in people and investing in that, giving opportunities, instead of making people fight for everything. - Right NOW. We can do better. We have the tools and the knowledge. We just need to decide to. That is what I have done. That is what I invite you to do with me.

A better world is possible, and together WE can make it real.

 

 

1. Core of Leaders/ Core WE:

If you are reading this it is probably because the overall work at this stage is already done, but maybe not in terms of a local manifestation of the movement where you live, so this still might apply in that way to you. I am going to write this for people at every stage of this movement. And if for some reason what I am doing now fails someone else will have an outline of all the stages in this movement to try and get it going themselves. (Given the life of the written word who knows how such a document could be helpful if we take the Longview. ;)  Point being I am going to start at the beginning to give the full outline even if it might not all still be relevant. )

Herding cats and Integral Jesus:

The beginning is always ruff because people come to whatever type of meeting you have with preconceived notions and desires they are looking to fill. They want to connect and have WE time, They want to talk about their unique integral perspective, they want to get X going, They want to go meta and debate theory, etc. etc. YES, we probably all want all of that, but it is SO very important to consciously focus on prioritizing organization so that all of this can unfold in a way that is fluid. Remember, it can also be really important not to grow too fast too soon. Even though it is so easy to get excited and want to invite all your integral friends. they will be disappointed if the leader/s doesn't put some forethought into the gathering.

I think it's best to start with core like minded members who are on the same page as to what the goal of the movement is. A discussion group or a WE space is NOT the goal of this type of movement. - That is a part of the movement, one thing we will be doing, maybe something you might want to get going to meet people to get THIS kind of a movement started. It is the goal of this first stage of development to start a group, but it's a failure to start a movement if the group is not in some way oriented to the end of personal and cultural translation and transformation. A stage 2 group where people share and philosophise is great, but if it can't be unified, or focused,  it can't grow into a movement unless it establishes core principles, identity, values, methods, and goals that really bind a stage 2 WE and help them expand and grow into a real movement, not just a philosophy group or a spiritual community.

Trying to work together with other integralists to make explicit on paper that which is implicit to us all is a trap and a waste of time that will just frustrate everyone involved. I know. I have seen it in many groups trying to work on these problems over the years. It cannot be done in one sitting very little and very obvious things get accomplished in long amounts of time and because it cannot be done in one sitting attendance fluctuates, only real core members are on the same page, new members show up with preconceived notions and desires they are looking to fill, have no idea of the context and thus slow down the process, frustrating everyone involved and little gets accomplished.

I am to the point now where I don't think this is a skillful way to get it going. I think we need to come TOP down with a method, goals, virtues, missions statement, THIS IS THE MOVEMENT - ARE YOU IN? Great.  X (website - www.theintegralhub.com) is where you can get informed, connected and involved (and then if there are issues or ideas we can be open to refinement through the built in process integrating grass roots perspectives as we grow). - This book is my attempt to come top down and to open up this discussion within the context of the previously mentioned shared values and goals to which I believe we must project. I think our movement needs templets and outlines (handbooks and websites) so others can apply them and get involved easier, helping our movement to expand and evolve in different places at once, as well as trying to use technology to connect us in more dynamic ways so we can learn from each other and grow in a bigger, better, more nuanced way then ever before. - Organizing and optimizing the human conversation and birthing the Integral Age.

When you start a group it is top down no matter what. - I have been in groups that decided top down that there would be no leadership or decision making process (because they didn't want any "top down") , it was only going in circles, and quickly fizzled.

Things to come top down with in this movement:

1. Meeting under Key Agreements, Values, and Goals
2. LongView - The Unfolding Plan
3.  Integral Problems Solving Methods

(basically the things this book is outlining)

1. Key Agreements, values, and goals - Things need to change - collective individualism - market place revolution - resource based economy - Integral worldcentric values

2. LongView - As explained in this book - or something very much like it (because I am open to refinement and dynamic steering as the movement unfolds, as I said above.)

3. Integral Problems Solving Methods - Transparently processing tensions in a rational skillful way, using Technology, Logic, Science, Tests, Falsifiability, Emergent wisdom from where ever it may arise, and a Peer Review process to refine our ideas over time. (As a way of seeking and finding goodness and truth) - Leadership meetings and structure should be using CoLab, which is a variation of Holocracy, or something like it. (We will have to expand and refine this methodology overtime as well. - If you don't know about Holocracy you should go research it. It's a governance structure that guides people through problem solving processes in a very pointed and skillful way using different formatted rounds to process different types of tensions in actionable ways, creating roles with responsibilities. etc. - The guy who created it -Brian Robertson- is some kind of libertarian and favors a more dynamic structure that steers away from ridged hierarchies - but I also think that we could create fractal hierarchies - or rather bring them online because they already exist - and look at fractal agreement as well as areas of tension - those are areas we should explore and test. - In some cases this is what we are already doing, but we need to make it more accessible and transparent. ) - This is the system that we need to refine for problem solving at different levels. This is one of our main technologies; skillful communications and problem solving methods.

The group is what the group does. - Who decides? How?

The movement decides from the beginning that the process decides.

To take on this project is to come top down with all 3 because that is what makes it the kind of project that it is. Then even the leaders have to submit to that standard to maintain it.

This is the basic work on the front end, so we can fix any problems with refinement as it unfolds, and mostly so we can prevent any one person from thinking they can use any type of force or pressure outside of appeals to truth and goodness for all to manipulate the system in their favor.  - Avoiding both top down and bottom up tyranny or the "might makes right" morality of all the past systems that we are trying to outgrow.

Key Agreements:

Mission statement/ Goal (To better ourselves, each other, our community, our culture, and the planet by applying integral ideas.) Core philosophy/ Values and Understanding (Worldcentric+, Unity conscious, Integrally Informed)

We Space standards:

Who gets to be in the WE/How/why?  - Not everyone in our group is going to want to be an active leader. Some people might just resonate with our ideas, values, and goals, and are just waiting for an opportunity that fits into their life as a way of getting involved and for now they might just want to stay informed as to what is happening. - People who resonate with our core values and projects are allowed into our WE space.

In terms of "Outreach" at this stage we want people who resonate with our values and ideas all the way. - At first, at this stage we want integrally informed people with worldcentric values. - We want to be able to show them our key agreements and integrate them into how we use our governance structures. - I personally went the extra mile and tried to separate out what I consider to be the "Healthy Integral" from the "Not Actually Integral" to try and start with the most pure core possible.  Here where the main distinctions I used to form our core WE:

Key Agreements, and major differences between "the Integral brand/cult" and "IErM" (Integral Emergentist rEvolutionary Movement):

1. No creationism, “spirit” underlying everything, or inherent telos to the kosmos, No afterlife, perfection or transcendence. - We do not believe in mythic supernatural ideas about where we came from and where we are going. - We say YES to life, this world, this reality. We see suffering and impermanence as things that make life worth living, they help us to appreciate what we have and motivate us to make things better. Life is not an illusion or a dream. - Reality is real and we have a healthy relationship to it.

2. Consciousness is an emergent quality of matter not the source of it (idealism/dualism is antiquated) this emergentist perspective cannot be reduced to empiricism or UR reductionism. (no tetra-arising all the way back - only in sentient beings) - chemistry is not love - that is anthropomorphic projection (acting like inanimate objects have human feelings) and pseudoscience (working backwards from what you would like to be true and trying to find ways to make the world fit into religious/mythic preconceptions about it).

3. Pre/trans distinctions. - The cup (poetry) and the sword (rationality). Understanding the relative nature of all language, we can speak poetically within our community using any and all symbol sets and we can qualify our poetry in terms of something real. - We can also use the power of these distinctions as translations down the spiral - to speak the language of other traditions or worldviews from within other traditions and move them towards goodness and truth. - skillful means.

4. Intellectual Honesty - Epistemological skillfulness and humility - not making claims and assertions we can’t back up with good reasons and evidence, qualifying our ideas - responsible leadership. - Understanding the quadratic validation process.

5. Becoming, creating, and self mastery, not just self transcendence and states. Post-formal Integral religion. 4 S’s of spiritual practice. Reality is real and we have a healthy relationship to it. Our ultimate goals are not just “personal spiritual enlightenment, freedom, and transcendence” but a better world in the here and now for us all.

6. Movement/Lifestyle vs Products/Events
Skillful leadership organization integration and outreach. Affordable and available events for all economic classes.
Encouraging, connecting and expanding/refining, and participating in the integral movement/culture.

7. Embracing Debates and Disagreements towards the actually true/good - Creative friction and tension help us refine and grow.

8. New Transformational (governance, educational, religious, social, etc.) systems, not just translation.Collective-individualist Integral synthesis (move the hierarchy from the economic sphere to the public sphere - move the society more to the middle and focus on individual needs/growth as investment in the future - so individuals can bring their skills to the project of humanity - integral emergent transparent interactive governance system.

 

As we do more to integrate down the spiral it will matter less and less how much people agree with all of these distinctions, It's not like we are expecting everyone in the world to agree with us about all of this, but starting on the same page about the fundamentals is very important, and I do see getting it wrong when it comes to the above issues as causing other potential problems in this project later on. Building a strong foundation is always key because every other thing you build has to rest on top of it, and if you don't get the foundation right what you build might not stand or it might get away from you and turn into something you never intended.

Leadership Integration:

Who gets to be a leader/how/why?  - Anyone from our WE space who is Integrally Informed can become an Integral leader if they want to, once a person is integrated into our leadership team and learns our methodology they can participate in governance meetings and take on leadership "Roles".

To be integrated into leadership - Remember the 3 things?

1. Being Integrally Informed and meeting under Key Agreements, Values, and Goals
2. LongView - The Unfolding Plan
3. Integral Problems Solving Methods

So if one is already in the "WE" they probably already understand 1 and 2 for the most part, but maybe we have to bring them up to speed.

The person joining the leadership team will have meetings with Integration Officers to get caught up or prepared, and then the person will sit in on a couple of meetings until they understand how the Integral Problems Solving Methods and governance structure works with a chance to ask questions at the end. - Then they can join in, and eventually they will learn to facilitate meetings as well.

Decision making Methodology:

At this stage up until Roles and Methodology have been established I have mostly been using my own best judgment and what seems like the best ideas from the group, but the goal here is to establish roles, standards, and criteria quickly to get the process in practice and the ball rolling. - If you are reading this then these standards and practices are at your finger tips and the sooner you can start to apply the methodology the better. ( Again I am trying to make this both true for you if you are just starting a local chapter in your area, and true for the movement as a whole. )

Fractal Hierarchy:

levels of leadership as the movement grows:

Structure and roles at this level stage:
 

Dangers:

Unskillful Leadership, Trying to grow too fast and do too much too soon, and non-integral posers (infiltrated WE)

This can come in many forms:
Trying to build these core agreements over time in a grass roots way, Talking about feelings and experiences in circles, Inability to decide on anything, Taking a vote vs top down, Analysis paralysis, Meta Analysis paralysis, Inability to stay on task, Wanting to turn the leadership space into another quadrants space (that's why we also need a we space asap), Criticizing instead of making suggestions and other plans. wanting "Integral Jesus" to bring it down to us.

Something I learned from the Zeitgeist Movement is that we don't want to make a bunch of noise or do a giant ad campaign unless we are inviting people to go DO something. So for example this is not just a book asking you to go start this movement, but an invitation to get involved in our movement and we should be coming out with a handbook and website at the same time so that you are not just excited with nothing to do about it, but hopefully you will take this excitement and then GO GET INVOLVED in a structure that is already set up for you to engage with. - So we can harvest that energy, if we get people excited and have no way for them to get involved we have wasted that energy and put our time and focus in the wrong place, putting the cart before the horse. (I realize that Peter Joseph had no intention of starting a movement and that his first film was more of a cathartic art project, but the lesson remains. Their was an outcry for organization and leadership. An outcry that is still mostly unanswered.)  - The lesson again is: Get people excited ONLY when you are trying to also invite them to DO something and you have made that something available for them.

When I was speaking about "non-integral posers and the infiltrated WE" at this stage that can show up as people wanting to debate the core values or key agreements of the group within the group, this can be a major distraction and it can drain or shift the energy in unhealthy ways and effect morale. It's healthy to debate these ideas but try to keep these meetings just for the insiders. WE DO want to bring the debate. WE want our FB group page, or our website where we are "building" together to stay mostly focused on it's projects, the place for debating Integral disagreements is in the public of the integral community - that is where it is needed - there, or in private, but too much friction in our creative spaces can rub people raw and steal too much energy. Avoid it. - Talk about the debates sure, but in this case with the "choir" so to speak - this can be a big part of group building as well. Building resonance.

Projects:

The projects at this and most of the stages are basically to accomplish the goals at that stage. The Goals at this stage are simply to 1. Articulate what the group is about and who WE want to join us. 2. Unite a core group around the shared values and mission. 3. Learn and Apply the Methodology.  4. Get organized, establish Roles and practice (Our Job in the initial version of this stage has been to lay all of this out for you as I am doing now. For me this is the result of like 10 years of work. Your Job is just to understand and apply it well. To get plugged into the system we are building, engage with it, and use it's templets to expand the movement into your own local area. )

The aforementioned website - www.theintegralhub.com - comes online as a way to unite all the integral people, projects, products, communities, events, and conversations in an open way as a tool for the integral community. - Transcending and Including "Integral the brand" and birthing "The Integral Movement" - Owned and operated by the integral community and "the one human family co-op". - The integral network - making opportunities by connecting to local individuals, groups, business, and artists. - If your an integral artist or a writer this brings online a network of venues, audiences and a support structure much like if you where a christian musician planning a tour of churches, taking offerings, and being supported by your community. (Until the website was built WE were just organizing in a private Facebook group)

The IErM Handbook - Needs to have a basic "mission statement" and any other documents of helpful distinctions, This LongView book, which is the basic plan or outline of the movement, and lastly standards and methodology for practice.

Of coarse we are going to need to start figuring out some media for the group (We have an IErM YouTube page) and it's good to encourage people in the group to make media about how they resonate with the core distinctions being made above - encouraging more people who also resonate to join and get involved.

For us founders It has also been a good idea to start doing some fund raising because building web pages and using "MaestroConference" (an interactive web conferencing platform) for meetings etc. all costs money. - But if you are reading this it is probably all set up for you and all you have to do is become a member and pay some small monthly fee. Probably less than you pay for a cup of coffee and much less than a subscription to a membership with "Integral Life".


The awesome vibe of this new tribe helps it thrive,
and soon the community will come alive, come online,
Getting excited and united to drive this movement.
With Art and Music, Food and Resonance, setting precedence,
Invitations and initiations, until it spreads to every nation through integration.
A new sensation and everyone is saying "It's about time cause it just makes since."
World Wide WE could never be separated by an imaginary line, a wall, or a fence.
We ARE ONE and THIS IS IT.

 

2. Find/Unite Local Tribe - Integration:

Now with this handbook all fleshed out and the webpage online (www.theintegralhub.com) we will have ways of uniting our global community like NEVER before, connecting everyone Integral to everything integral with TONS of free resources as well as special member areas, and tons of ways to connect to local Integral people/groups/events, debate, share ideas, shop, plan events, plan tours for your own Integral projects, check out media, etc.  - It's called "The Integral Hub" for a reason.  -The movement really starts to shine when it comes online, grows, and refines! It's about time.

4 Quadrants of a healthy Integral Movement:

Someone in Leadership Hosts "WE Space Meetings" - It could be one persons role or people can take turns and have different types of meetings on different nights but for it to be an "Official We Space Meeting" it has to be hosted by a leader.

We have a core of leaders united together with a mission and a plan and one of the first most important things to do next is to find time to get together with the people in your group in a more casual and open setting to get more personal and also invite more local integralists into a more casual and open WE space that is about representing a type of values and living by example, having moral discussions about how to live our beliefs in the world - our passions, realizations, and struggles etc.. Sharing art, ideas, food, and discussing relevant themes in an inspirational passionate and fun way.

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This is the place to connect with people who are of like mind and like value in homes, coffee shops, and venues. We can resonate on art, philosophy, spirituality, etc. share media, experiences, have musical shows and gatherings. - Create a new culture. - Now people who are usually very lonely are feeling like they belong like never before.

Now WE have the bottom half of this movement - which starts to create a demand for the upper half:

We need:
LR: Leadership
LL: WE Space
UR: Support and Integration Systems
UL: Events Open To The Community

These are all the important aspects of a complete expression of this movement. We need a LL WE Space to create community, Leadership in the LR to organize the movement, Open space and events so we can express our movement to the community and the world as a group and as individual artists and business people in the UL, and we need UR education and integration systems to educate and integrate new comers.

We grow from the core out, and Integrate from the outer levels in. Ideally we would have open events, people would come, want to learn more, sign up to learn more through our education/integration programs, join the WE space, hang out with us, get inspired to take action, live integral values / lifestyle, and maybe even get involved with integral leadership.

If you are having local "WE space meetings" I think it's important to remember that WE space should be mostly reserved for people who are integrated and informed. It's ok to bring a friend, but you want them to be at least close, and to have maybe spoken to them about Integral ideas before - you are inviting them because you think they will resonate - that is why you would invite an uninitiated or an integrally uninformed person to a WE space meeting. It can be done but it's generally not the place for translation. - At this stage the focus is more about understanding Integral theory in general or even just learning integral distinctions more than being worried about all the particulars mentioned above as "the key agreements". We do want to debate these ideas within the community but this is still our "Integral WE" and in this case it is more important that we have set up a fair system/environment/culture in which to have these debates than it is to make people agree with us. This is why a good foundation is important, when the structure is sound or the system and methodology is skillful you can trust it to deal with many potential problems and situations.

Meetings:

We will talk more about Integration systems and Initiation systems in the next chapter, though I think there will be a demand for it coming online soon after the WE space is created, and I wouldn't be surprised if in many places "teaching" and "Integral Theory lessons"  might be a thing long before you have a local Integral center.

LL WE Space: I'm thinking like weekly or biweekly Vegan-Vegetarian potlucks, Maybe start with “getting to know you’s” and catching up, then talking about a theme or having a presenter, then just hang out maybe play games or music. (trying to accommodate for a lacking open space right now while there are only a few of us at stage 2 but as the movement grows WE space can expand and spill over into all kinds of sub groups, and the main WE space meetings can become more focused for a larger audience. (Basically in the same way I imagine that a church or a youth group grows.)

LR Leadership meetings: once or twice a month as well.
Thinking about refining the plan, practicing working with the method, and thinking about how to expand the we and what kind of projects we can do as a WE.
Fund raising Ideas
(Also thinking about some type of integration systems.)

I do think "WE Space Meetings" should be separate from "Leadership Meetings" for 2 main reasons.
1. These new comers don't want to get bogged down in business matters that they don't understand and are just going to distract from, needing to be caught up when they just wanted to connect. - it sucks for them and for the meeting.
2. In the little time we have to get work done on leadership issues we don't want to have to do "getting to know you's" and starting from scratch every time a new person is introduced. There needs to be an integration into the core group of leaders bringing the new comer up to speed before they get into it. - The "getting to know you’s” should be happening in the WE space. (Maybe check back with what it says about "Leadership Integration" above in part 1)

I - Working on projects to connect, unite, empower and expand the WE
WE - Meeting one on one with people and participating in a larger conversation
IT'S - Leadership meetings
IT - Thinking about education/initiation structures and WE Space meetings.


The main goal in this whole spiral of unfolding is to support/integrate/expand the WE: Build and hold together a community through establishing and expanding upon new understandings and approaches. With that intention we move forward.

 

3. Community Centers:

Once WE build a a local tribe the goal of that tribe is to:

1. Integrate People who might already resonate into the tribe/movement: On a personal level through getting involved as much as you can; hosting Integral events, participating in and bringing your creative ideas to the culture, and representing to the best of your ability through your work and to people who know you.

2. Fund Raising and Investment: We can increase the quantity and quality of our amenities through fund raising and wise investment. Deepening the quality of the lives of the people in our community as well as giving us more power and influence within our local communities to have businesses, events, and projects that will set the foundation for future investments in stages to come.

3. Establish Alliances: Find and collaborate with other local groups and businesses that share worldcentric values.

4. Be a blessing to your community: Create/bring high minded culture in all 4 quadrants as a spiritual practice to your area. Find skillful Integral sustainable solutions to help and give back. (maybe trying to start programs to help homeless people,  rehabilitate and reintegrate ex-prisoners and drug addicts, etc. etc. - whatever you feel inspired to do)

It all starts with a community center. This is our first big goal. A place we can host events, and get the moment going full time. This is where we can invite people and this is where we can have a place of our own and SHINE our worldcentric love and light into our community.  - Lets make the movement actually relevant to people and maybe then they will have to learn what Integral is.

Our community center can have an:
Art Gallery, Studio/Practice Space for Rent, Music Stage/Theater, Hang out space, Members Area, Meeting Rooms, Office spaces, Pool Tables/Video Games etc., Support and Integration Spaces, Class rooms, Book Store, Coffee Shop, Ethical/Vegan Restaurant, Could Include local food co-op etc.

I think it would be cool to get an old church or school building or something. Good Location is important, but so is a flexible and diverse space.

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Full time work is now needed and the "Tetra-Arising" of the moment is fully functioning. Now we will have:
Leadership and management systems,
Integration and initiation systems,
Social WE space times/events,
Open space for individuals and their art/ideas to be heard/seen/ and shine through general Local Outreach Projects (conscious open mic night, philosophy clubs, vegan and vegetarian pot lucks, events and workshops, etc).

ALL 4 quadrants taken care of:


LR: Leadership
UL: Education
LL: WE Space
UR: Outreach

We can measure our success or failure, and work to do a better job winning hearts and minds in all four quadrants with these 4 R's of Integral Success. Lets remember to keep an eye on a healthy balance and pay attention to all these aspects.

This is an integral approach that can find, teach, and initiate people into higher levels of understanding and involvement through creating a way to recognize and honor natural growth hierarchy. Moving from UL Integral Events to UL initiation systems, to LL WE space, and LR leadership if desired. This unfolding will encourage further WE involvement, and personal development through embracing and engaging with what each individual can bring to the table.

So now more then ever we are reaching out and being more vocal and involved. Now we can not only just talk about it, but demonstrate it, and invite people into those spaces. - Now we just need to grow big enough, with enough dedicated members, with a diversity of skills, to start the commune, and take the movement to the next stage.

Support and Integration systems:

Support and Integration systems or "Integral philosophy lessons/counseling sessions" encouraging a healthy perspective, it gives the knowledge to understand the movement, and the tools you will need to work within it. - We basically need a school, and/or online classes to teach and/or establish agreements about:

Understanding:
Part 1: The Sword - Rationality, Logic, History, 4 quadrants/divisions of 4 - Exit Blue(SD) - Orange(SD) Rationality - Into Green(SD) Deconstruction of Meaning and Self
Part 2: The Cup - Poetry, Comparative Mythology, The Hero's Journey, Stages of development, Post-Formal Trans-Rational Distinctions Green(SD) Relativism, existential awakening, into Yellow(SD) integral distinctions

& Control:
Part 3: The Wand - AQAL Integral Theory - Self Transcendence and Self Mastery - Creative life Balance System - Integral Life Practice, Skillful means, Integral communication - Translation vs Transformation, Integral values into holistic integrally informed conscious co-creating being becoming as an individual
Part 4: The Crown - The Longview - Collective individualism/Transformation, Integral Trans-Partisan politics/Translation, Integral values into holistic integrally informed conscious co-creating being becoming as a tribe - World Wide WE. (We are talking about this now because I assume you already have some understanding of the previous 3 parts.)

The Lessons we learn from Blue(SD) to Teal(SD):
Blue(SD) - Traditional Role/Rule Conformist - Live for something more then just your ego.
Orange(SD) - Rational Materialistic Achiever - The power of Rationality, Logic, Doubt, and Science
Green(SD) - Sensitive Postmodern Pluralistic Relativist - Care for Everything - Relativity of Value/Meaning
Yellow(SD) - Integrated synthesizer - consciously created life, integrating diversity with discernment
Teal(SD) - Integrally Informed - Life as rEvolutionary action and spiritual practice.

Right now I am working on all 4 of these books for the support and integration system - And I might put them as classes online - That would solve the problem of trying to train teachers, but it would be good practice for people to know how to communicate these things and I bet there are people who feel moved to do this type of communication, and people who would love some face to face lessons. - It's fun.

To me these classes would be the ideal Integration into the WE. But in the beginning it might be good enough to be integrally informed - Read "The Integral Vision"  Ken Wilber, and Check out Joseph Campbell's "The Power of Myth" - and you will be well on your way. There are plenty of good teachers who you can get bits and peaces of this knowledge from. (we need to reteach Integral from a perspective with integrity, intelectual honesty,  or without supernatural assumptions)

 

4. Commune

Whole new culture
Collectie individualism (in's and out's)
(new political and economic systems)
New Developmental education system
New Trans-rational, trans-cultural, human, non-dual religious tradition




If you think "Organized Religion" is a problem:

Let's not reduce "Religion" to our contemporary fundamentalist literal christian conception of it. ("the belief in invisible beings/God's") - As if the possibilities of "Governance" where reducible to what our current generations understand about Democracy. - That is a very limited understanding of "Religion", both of what it is now, and what it could be.

Joseph Campbell says when myths are working properly they serve 4 functions:

1. Mystical function - opens up a realization of the transcendent mystical source of everything that's mystery is also your own mystery. (notice the word mystery)

2. Cosmological function - serves and incorporates the situations and concepts of the day.

3. Sociological function - serves to validate and maintain a social order of a particular society with roles and rules. (and if the tradition is not in accord with the 2nd function it will be out of date and inappropriate)

4. Pedagogical function - guiding the individual harmoniously through the inevitable crises of the stages of life in his world today in terms of its values and dangers.

These are the ways in which humans NEED a healthy religion and this should also explain why most of our current expressions and translations are out of date, inappropriate, and unhealthy.

Now that we are more caught up on the Cosmological function we can have (NEED) healthy religious traditions again that are NOT divisive, outdated, or superstitious.

So I do not think "organized religion" is a problem. I think bad, divisive, outdated, or superstitious ideas are the problem and one doesn't need "organized religion" to have those problems.

Actually, I think a healthy organized religion is desperately needed!

 

 

5. Competition


Get back into the market place, compete, and win based on values and quality.
Buying up businesses and assimilating businesses into our WE.


Problems with Conscious Capitalism:

We come together under agreements either as individuals under some ism, individual business owners as a brand, or governance systems as a nation. Its the standards and the criteria that are important. Getting people to adhere to them and be educated about them through some type of SYSTEM.

The real reason government can't do anything to fix our current problems is because we live in a monetary value system not a worldcentric integral value system. - The problems are built into the foundational philosophical assumptions of the systems in question.

Conscious Capitalism is an integral hack/upgrade into modern and postmodern businesses. It's how an Integralists should behave morally as players within the current Orange(SD) capitalistic games we play. But if we start to play a better game that has more moral "Integral values" built in, moral action will be easier, more accessible, and thus more wide spread. - In short Conscious Capitalism is better than Capitalism, but using a transformative new Integral governance system is even better still.

It's strange because When I listen to Ken Wilber speak it's like in some ways he is explaining why his own ideas won't work when he says that the problem is that you can't get people elected because they are wise and yet he wants to still try and find a way to make it happen even though he says there is 0 chance of it.

And I hear the same thing of explaining why his own ideas are wrong from John Mackey when he talks about economic freedom and how most intellectuals want some form of "government control" (because they are jealous of the money and power of the people who "made it", but he also says we need to get away from wanting money and personal power and that the new leaders are "servant leaders" and that the altitude of the leader effect's the altitude of the business and I would also add that it effects the artifacts that it creates. THAT is why the for-mentioned intellectuals are actually right.

If people can't elect the integral leader because he is smarter how can they choose the integral business because it's better? - Same problem. A lack of development and skillful judgment in the value system of the consumer.

Being a Conscious Capitalists might make the business owner feel good about their participation in such a system but it is not a solution to the problems of the system just a better way to play within it.

So whats the answer? Healthy translation. YES, but the problem is that we can't then think that the healthy translation is the final answer. its a short term solution. in the long term we still need transformation and if we think we are done then we might still be fighting the real transformation that we need as a society because we are so happy with our new translations. - New translations hold new insights which should allow you to see a bigger picture and allow for further expansion. In this case we have to look at the social climate and see what IT needs, not just how can we BE our best within systems as they are.

The Real Answer, ALL 4 Quadrants, Integral individuals/education, Integral businesses, Integral leadership/governance, Integral community

Mackey says "you can't trust government" but the government is owned by big business, so how can he say that big business can save us when in many ways it's the source of several of our main problems? - The reasons people think "you can't trust government" don't apply to the type of transparent open and refinable system that we are advocating for so maybe that is just a lack of understanding of the possibilities of governance on Mackey's part.

The reason "a lack of development and skillful judgment in the value system of the consumer" is not a problem for us is because we are a much better option even given the values of the market. - The only people who are not tired of struggling and fighting to survive in this way is the rich, and if they are the only ones left playing their game at the end of the day what will their money be worth?

 

6. Integral City

It's at this point that I feel compelled to say that we are well beyond the point that our realistic expectations can really claim to fully understand, and there is a lot of theoretical speculation and high hopes at this point and further. It could go so many ways. We can talk about the possible ways it can go. Hopefully the practice that gets us to that point helps us to be better prepared for the problems at those levels and higher.


Dynamic steering and a plan

Ken Wilber on integral Politics:

If you watch Ken Wilbers video on integral politics the basic message is pretty much this:

In our current political system, its near impossible to get an integral leader elected because he is integral.
Ken suggests that we move into a parliamentary system with 4 branches where yellow, green, orange, and blue all have a voice (That's assuming that organizing it by level would really be more comfortable, or that giving all of those people a voice in that kind of a way, by that kind of a standard is good.) , he thinks if you could get that in place then maybe we could have a house of wisdom, but he doesn't say how, he doesn't explain how we could or would transition to a more parliamentary system, or even why that is the right thing to do to solve other major problems we have.  I don't know if I think fixing the parties to make it align better with the spiral is really what we need to be doing

it seems like he is really unsure as of what to do but he happy to be working with current leaders to get them to be more integrally informed. It seems as though he would rather stick to translation because real transformation is too scary and hard to control. I personally worry about what will happen if we don't transform.

Transcend and include:
It's all up to you but the work is never done.
Hurts more bothers you less
Action and non action without attachment to results.

dominated or oppressed